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==Solution 5 ==
Let the roots be <math>r</math>, <math>s</math>, and <math>t</math>. We know <math>r^2+s^2+t^2 = (r+s+t)(r+s+t) - 2(rs+st+tr)</math>.Continuing, we have:
<math>r^3+s^3+t^3 = (r^2+s^2+t^2)(r+s+t) - (rs+st+tr)(r+s+t)+3rst</math>
<math>r^4+s^4+t^4 = (r^3+s^3+t^3)(r+s+t) - (rs+st+tr)(r^2+s^2+t^2)-(rst)(r+s+t)</math>
<math>r^5+s^5+t^5 = (r^4+s^4+t^4)(r+s+t) - (rs+st+tr)(r^3+s^3+t^3) - (rst)(r^2+s^2+t^2)</math>
Clearly, the answer is <math>5-8+13 = \boxed{\textbf{(D)} 10}</math>
-skibbysiggy
==Solution 6==
Let <math>\alpha</math>, <math>\beta</math>, and <math>\gamma</math> be the roots of the polynomial. By definition, the following equations are true.
<cmath>
\begin{align*}
    s_{k + 1} &= \alpha^{k + 1} + \beta^{k + 1} + \gamma^{k + 1} \\
    s_k &= \alpha^k + \beta^k + \gamma^k \\
    s_{k - 1} &= \alpha^{k - 1} + \beta^{k - 1} + \gamma^{k - 1} \\
    s_{k - 2} &= \alpha^{k - 2} + \beta^{k - 2} + \gamma^{k - 2}
\end{align*}
</cmath>
The equations could be used to find the relationships between the roots and <math>a</math>, <math>b</math>, and <math>c</math>.
<cmath>
\begin{align*}
    \alpha^{k + 1} + \beta^{k + 1} + \gamma^{k + 1}
    &= a(\alpha^k + \beta^k + \gamma^k) + b(\alpha^{k - 1} + \beta^{k - 1} + \gamma^{k - 1}) + c(\alpha^{k - 2} + \beta^{k - 2} + \gamma^{k - 2}) \\
    &= \alpha^{k - 2}(c + b\alpha + a\alpha^2) + \beta^{k - 2}(c + b\beta + a\beta^2) + \gamma^{k - 2}(c + b\gamma + a\gamma^2)
\end{align*}
</cmath>
Continuing,
<cmath>
\alpha^{k - 2}(\alpha^3 - a\alpha^2 - b\alpha - c) + \beta^{k - 2}(\beta^3 - a\beta^2 - b\beta - c) + \gamma^{k - 2}(\gamma^3 - a\gamma^2 - b\gamma - c) = 0
</cmath>
Notice that if <math>x^3 - ax^2 - bx - c = 0</math>, the equation will satisfy. Thus, <math>a = 5</math>, <math>b = -8</math>, <math>c = 13</math>. Therefore, <math>a + b + c = \boxed{\textbf{(D)} 10}</math>.
~MaPhyCom


==Video Solution==
==Video Solution==

Latest revision as of 09:51, 27 July 2025

Problem

Let $s_k$ denote the sum of the $\textit{k}$th powers of the roots of the polynomial $x^3-5x^2+8x-13$. In particular, $s_0=3$, $s_1=5$, and $s_2=9$. Let $a$, $b$, and $c$ be real numbers such that $s_{k+1} = a \, s_k + b \, s_{k-1} + c \, s_{k-2}$ for $k = 2$, $3$, $....$ What is $a+b+c$?

$\textbf{(A)} \; -6 \qquad \textbf{(B)} \; 0 \qquad \textbf{(C)} \; 6 \qquad \textbf{(D)} \; 10 \qquad \textbf{(E)} \; 26$

Solution 1

Applying Newton's Sums, we have\[s_{k+1}+(-5)s_k+(8)s_{k-1}+(-13)s_{k-2}=0,\]so\[s_{k+1}=5s_k-8s_{k-1}+13s_{k-2},\]we get the answer as $5+(-8)+13=10$.

Solution 2

Let $p, q$, and $r$ be the roots of the polynomial. Then,

$p^3 - 5p^2 + 8p - 13 = 0$

$q^3 - 5q^2 + 8q - 13 = 0$

$r^3 - 5r^2 + 8r - 13 = 0$

Adding these three equations, we get

$(p^3 + q^3 + r^3) - 5(p^2 + q^2 + r^2) + 8(p + q + r) - 39 = 0$

$s_3 - 5s_2 + 8s_1 = 39$

$39$ can be written as $13s_0$, giving

$s_3 = 5s_2 - 8s_1 + 13s_0$

We are given that $s_{k+1} = a \, s_k + b \, s_{k-1} + c \, s_{k-2}$ is satisfied for $k = 2$, $3$, $....$, meaning it must be satisfied when $k = 2$, giving us $s_3 = a \, s_2 + b \, s_1 + c \, s_0$.

Therefore, $a = 5, b = -8$, and $c = 13$ by matching coefficients.

$5 - 8 + 13 = \boxed{\textbf{(D) } 10}$.

Solution 3

Let $p, q$, and $r$ be the roots of the polynomial. By Vieta's Formulae, we have

$p+q+r = 5$

$pq+qr+rp = 8$

$pqr=13$.

We know $s_k = p^k + q^k + r^k$. Consider $(p+q+r)(s_k) =5s_k$.

$5s_k = [p^{k+1} + q^{k+1} + r^{k+1}] + p^k q + p^k r + pq^k + q^k r + pr^k + qr^k$

Using $pqr = 13$ and $s_{k-2} = p^{k-2} + q^{k-2} + r^{k-2}$, we see $13s_{k-2} = p^{k-1}qr + pq^{k-1}r + pqr^{k-1}$.

We have \[\begin{split} 5s_k + 13s_{k-2} &= s_{k+1} + (p^k q + p^k r + p^{k-1}qr) + (pq^k + pq^{k-1}r + q^k r) + (pqr^{k-1} + pr^k + qr^k) \\ &= s_{k+1} + p^{k-1} (pq + pr + qr) + q^{k-1} (pq + pr + qr) + r^{k-1} (pq + pr + qr) \\ &= s_{k+1} + (p^{k-1} + q^{k-1} + r^{k-1})(pq + pr + qr) \\ &= 5s_k + 13s_{k-2} = s_{k+1} + 8s_{k-1}\end{split}\]

Rearrange to get $s_{k+1} = 5s_k - 8s_{k-1} + 13s_{k-2}$

So, $a+ b + c = 5 -8 + 13 = \boxed{\textbf{(D) } 10}$.

-gregwwl

Solution 4

Let $r,s,t$ be the roots of $x^3-5x^2+8x-13$. Then:

$r^3=5r^2-8r+13$ \\ $s^3=5s^2-8s+13$ \\ $t^3=5t^2-8t+13$

If we multiply both sides of the equation by $r^k$, where $k$ is a positive integer, then that won't change the coefficients, but just the degree of the new polynomial and the other term's exponents. We can try multiplying to find $r^4+s^4+t^4$, but that is just to check. So then with the above information about $r^3,s^3,t^3$, we see that:

$r^k=5r^{k-1}-8r^{k-2}-13r^{k-3}$, $s^k=5s^{k-1}-8s^{k-2}-13s^{k-3}$, $t^k=5t^{k-1}-8t^{k-2}-13t^{k-3}$

$s_k=r^k+s^k+t^k$

Then: $s_k=5s_{k-1}-8s_{k-2}+13s_{k-3}$

This means that $s_{k+1}=5s_{k}-8s_{k-1}+13s_{k-2}$, as expected. So we have $a=5, b=-8, c=13$. So our answer is $5-8+13=\boxed{\textbf{(D) } 10}$

-IzhanAli

Solution 5

Let the roots be $r$, $s$, and $t$. We know $r^2+s^2+t^2 = (r+s+t)(r+s+t) - 2(rs+st+tr)$.Continuing, we have:


$r^3+s^3+t^3 = (r^2+s^2+t^2)(r+s+t) - (rs+st+tr)(r+s+t)+3rst$


$r^4+s^4+t^4 = (r^3+s^3+t^3)(r+s+t) - (rs+st+tr)(r^2+s^2+t^2)-(rst)(r+s+t)$


$r^5+s^5+t^5 = (r^4+s^4+t^4)(r+s+t) - (rs+st+tr)(r^3+s^3+t^3) - (rst)(r^2+s^2+t^2)$


Clearly, the answer is $5-8+13 = \boxed{\textbf{(D)} 10}$

-skibbysiggy

Solution 6

Let $\alpha$, $\beta$, and $\gamma$ be the roots of the polynomial. By definition, the following equations are true. \begin{align*} s_{k + 1} &= \alpha^{k + 1} + \beta^{k + 1} + \gamma^{k + 1} \\ s_k &= \alpha^k + \beta^k + \gamma^k \\ s_{k - 1} &= \alpha^{k - 1} + \beta^{k - 1} + \gamma^{k - 1} \\ s_{k - 2} &= \alpha^{k - 2} + \beta^{k - 2} + \gamma^{k - 2} \end{align*} The equations could be used to find the relationships between the roots and $a$, $b$, and $c$. \begin{align*} \alpha^{k + 1} + \beta^{k + 1} + \gamma^{k + 1} &= a(\alpha^k + \beta^k + \gamma^k) + b(\alpha^{k - 1} + \beta^{k - 1} + \gamma^{k - 1}) + c(\alpha^{k - 2} + \beta^{k - 2} + \gamma^{k - 2}) \\ &= \alpha^{k - 2}(c + b\alpha + a\alpha^2) + \beta^{k - 2}(c + b\beta + a\beta^2) + \gamma^{k - 2}(c + b\gamma + a\gamma^2) \end{align*} Continuing, \[\alpha^{k - 2}(\alpha^3 - a\alpha^2 - b\alpha - c) + \beta^{k - 2}(\beta^3 - a\beta^2 - b\beta - c) + \gamma^{k - 2}(\gamma^3 - a\gamma^2 - b\gamma - c) = 0\] Notice that if $x^3 - ax^2 - bx - c = 0$, the equation will satisfy. Thus, $a = 5$, $b = -8$, $c = 13$. Therefore, $a + b + c = \boxed{\textbf{(D)} 10}$.

~MaPhyCom

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